Quingdao Yellow Box Art Museum

Mario Taddei Contemporary Digital Art Exposition
Inverse sphere – Esovalva – Multibrachius

Neoart3 – Quingdao Yellow Box Art Museum – Mario Taddei Art Exhibition
Inverse sphere – Esovalva – Multibrachius

Yellowbox artmuseum（Hereinafter referred to as：YAM）

　　Mario Taddei（Hereinafter referred to as：M）

　　YAM：

　　What do you think of the great role of “Renaissance” in the historical course of human?

　　M：

　　The Renaissance was a Key point in cultural and art improvement of human history. The man was the center and all arts expanded and exploded as a big bang starting from the human being. There are many famous Renaissance artists, but the most representative from my pint of view was Leonardo Da Vinci ho was not only and artist but an engineer and a scientist too. In his works, not only paintings but especially his 6000 manuscripts that are the base of my study,we demonstrated that the study and the sciences can help arts to become better and better and for the fist time he domesticated also that art can help also the study and the development and knowledge of science.His studies of the human body and technology are powerful because they are shown with the use of art as never seen before. He was the first designer of the world, mixing art and technology at the service of the human beings.

　　YAM：

　　How do you understand the “New Renaissance”?

　　M：

　　Today technology and marketing are becoming too fast and too much powerful. I think that today man are used by technology and marketing and the human being is no more at the center, only businesses and technology is the center of everything. A“new Renaissance” can balance the world we are lining in, and can try to reverse this bad dream of humans being used by technology.Art, culture and education can change the games and people can begin to use technology and not being used. We have to put again the man in the center and as renascence did with arts and beauty as a key to the process.

　　YAM：

　　As a researcher about Da Vinci, did he really leave us a “secret code”? What findings can you share with us in your research?

　　M：

　　Leonardo da Vinci is not only the Mona Lisa, I discovered that in his thousands manuscripts there are much more secrets we can imagine. In each of his manuscripts we can find fusion of art and technology, using nature as a machine of inspiration. At the beginning I trusted books and expositions and I believed Leonardo invented thing like the parachute, the helicopter and the tank, but after a long study I find that this is not true, Leonardo studied a Lot and copied a lot also, this is the key to learn: study the past. After he studied a lot he began to invent new things and in each one of the thousands of manuscripts I find new ideas and principles. Butthe key that connect all these studies is the observations of the nature and the idea that you never stop learning things, also if you think you reached a high level of knowledge there will be always a lot of more to study and to learn, and you have never surrender also if you make mistakes.

　　YAM：

　　What did you learn from the 《Codex Atlanticus 1r》?

　　M：

　　Codex Atlanticus 1r, is just an example of the study of Leonardo. This page is one of the thousands with real projects of Leonardo, this is not a famous machine, also because was never been studied and understood. This is because Leonardo did not write any explanation too. This machine is the “evolution” of the tank project. The famous tank of Leonardo, you can find in all museum and books is not an original idea of Leonardo, he copied it from Valturio and sold the beautiful paper to the duke of Milan. Than, after he copied and studied the medieval project, he understood this project cannot work properly and so he studied it and changed the mechanisms to make a real giant war machine much more efficient than the fake one everybody knows. The problem is that the engine in the middle is not easy to understand.The only way to understand a project, really understand it, is to copy it and make it better.As Leonardo did, copying and studying other technology, I did the same. I studied it and copied it in a bigger drawing. When You copy a machine and a mechanism you must understand it, and the knowledge process takes time, is not a fast work. Today with internet there is a “false and“bad” myth of fast learning and fast doing, but it is not true. The video I make of me coping and improving the design of Leonardo is very long, the meaning I want to transfer is that you need time to learn and to design. The more time you put in learning and design the more you learn and the better you become. Exactly as Leonardo did to become Leonardo Da Vinci.

　　YAM：

　　What is Esovalva?

　　M：

　　Esovalva is one of my art creatures I “paint” using digital tools. But instead of having “one paint” I decided to create this “animal” from it’s DNA, a digital DNA. So that I “paint” a digital live form , able to “live” inside the computer.

　　Esovalva is an ambitious project. What distinguishes a living creature from a creation of the mind?Quite often the work of the mind, even if thinner and more perfect, has no history, it floats like a never born archetype in our imagination, until it is crafted by a motion of the will, which we commonly refer to as inspiration.Esovalva transcends inspiration, claiming its self-assertion on the strength of the following evolutional process. From a larval status, halfway between insects and fish, Esovalva is born thanks to a mitotic segmentation similar to a mammalian embryo. From now on this creature can have its place into reality, born as it was into the unreal world of simulation. Esovalva can have a tridimensional look by using the appropriate glasses, it can be reproduced and put on a pedestal to be easily observed, studied, cataloged and dismembered according to the rules of biological and natural research.

　　YAM：

　　How do you view the role of AI in current and future life?

　　M：

　　Today AI is 90% just marketing, all companies and media are talking about AI but they use only the world as a fashion thing. Today to sell a product it “must” contain Artificial Intelligence. The true AI is a work in progress very hard work, machine learning and advanced programming today can use technology that reached enough power to look like “Intelligent”. The scientific true is much more complex and all can change depending on the meaning we want to give to the world “Intelligence”. What is the “Intelligence” and how we can “measure”it? Today even the simplest animal is much more “Intelligence” than the most advanced computer. But we are in a good way, today technology is enough powerful to experiment for the first time something we can call “Artificial Intelligence. The AI can be used in all kind of works and tools.

　　AI can be used in science and technology to improve machine and objects and for sure this is the future. But we must careful. As an example I can say that we are close to produce thinks like a washing machine with AI, it will be very nice and it will sell a lot in the market, but we must be very careful because the AI washing machine we will pay a lot of money will be able to “use us, the AI will decide to buy more branded washing powder… using our credit card. It will use us!

　　The only way to avoid this is to become more “intelligent” and smart than AI and to put the human being in the middle not the machines.

　　I decided to apply AI to arts and to create Neoart3 in this way.I create Artificial DNA in forms, animals and architectures that can evolve inside my computer.I Think AI can be used in Arts too and in the Neo Renaissance arts too.

　　YAM：

　　Do these “system creatures” you create really grow on their own? Will they get sick and die?

　　M：

　　My digital creatures, really grow and evolve, but with my instructions and creativity vision. I will decide where the go and how they grow because I program them. All AI system at the end are human programs that do as they “master” program them. They are alive? They can really grow? And they can die? To be able to answer this question we must first do something very hard. We must give a definition of “life, what really means “grow and die”? In nature you can give different answer to this questions. And humans ere still fighting because in our planet people give different meanings to the world “live, grow and die. Think also that from a point of view of molecules, none really dies because a dead animal body is used by nature to grow plants and other animals… so it is very hard to define “life” real “life”. What about artificial life? It is life? For sure is not like our life and we cannot use some principles of reality in the digital world. Let’s imagine in the future one very powerful computer that gives “birth”to an AI creature as in the movies. If it will be really intelligent, it will not care about die or live because if you will turn power off, it will not suffer or die, and as soon as you switch the computer on, it will start to live again,Time for AI and digital creature does not have sense they will “live” forever and they will never really die.That is why I use Art and AI together, because it is very fascinating and I know that when I will die, my creatures will not. Neoart3 will live forever.

画家、科学家、数学家、发明家、建筑师……文艺复兴鼎盛时期的列奥纳多·达·芬奇一生涉猎之广之奇，真是只有“天才”才能概括了。
　　今年是达·芬奇逝世500周年。世界各地的博物馆、美术馆、粉丝们举行了各式各样的纪念活动。直到今天，他的粉丝还遍布世界，人们纪念他，跟随他，更研究他。但是研究达·芬奇谈何容易？他留下了太多“密码”。
　　马里奥·塔代伊就是达·芬奇研究的前行者之一。他就像他的研究对象，是艺术家，也是学者、科学家，他的艺术作品有数码培养皿中的新生物，也有传奇文献的精密解谜……当然，看“懂”他的作品，或许也需要解谜一般的耐心与好奇心。

您如何看待“文艺复兴”在人类历史进程中的伟大作用？
M：文艺复兴是人类历史上文化和艺术发展的关键时期。这一时期主张以人为中心，所以，一切艺术都以人，尤其是个人的兴趣、价值观和尊严作为出发点，以大爆炸的形式展开。文艺复兴时期有许多著名的艺术家，但在我看来，最有代表性的就是列奥纳多达芬奇，他不仅是艺术家，还是军事工程师和科学家。达芬奇不仅仅是在绘画领域有着显著的成就，还留下了6000份手稿。我基于他的这些手稿进行了研究，发现研究和科技可以帮助艺术变得越来越好，而艺术也有益于研究和科技的发展。达芬奇对人体和技术的研究十分透彻。他将人体和技术以艺术的形式展现出来，这在当时来说是前所未有的。他是世界上第一位把艺术和技术融合在一起的设计师。

您如何理解“新文艺复兴”？
M：如今，技术的发展和市场营销瞬息万变、影响宽广。 我认为，今天的人类被技术和市场主导，人类不再是中心，商业和技术才是一切的中心。 而“新文艺复兴”能够平衡我们当前所处的世界，很可能会扭转人类被科技主导的这一噩梦。艺术、文化和教育可以改变游戏规则，人们可以开始使用技术，而不是被技术主导。 我们必须再次把人放在中心，关键是要将文艺复兴。

作为达芬奇的研究者，您觉得他是否真的给我们留下了“秘密代码”？能和我们分享您的研究发现吗？
M：列奥纳多达芬奇留给我们的不仅仅是《蒙娜丽莎》，还有数千份手稿。他的手稿具有神奇的魔力，可以激发人想象的思维，寻找更多秘密。我们可以在他的每一份手稿中发现，他以自然作为灵感的源泉，将艺术与技术巧妙地融合。起初，我非常相信书籍和展览，相信达芬奇发明了类似降落伞、直升机和坦克之类的东西，但是经过长时间的研究，我发现这不是真的，达芬奇研究了很多，也复制了很多，这就是达芬奇学习的关键，那就是研究过去。在进行了大量的研究之后，达芬奇就开始发明新的东西。我可以在他的每一本手稿中找到新的想法、新的原理。但是，将所有这些研究联系在一起的关键是对自然的观察，以及活到老学到老的观念，还有就是即便认为自己已经达到一个很高的知识水平，也会发现总会有更多的东西需要研究和学习；即便犯了错误，也从未放弃。

您从《大西洋古抄本一页》中学到了什么？
《大西洋古抄本一页》只是达芬奇研究的一个例子。 它是列奥纳多众多真实工程作品之一。 著名的不是机器本身，而是人们从来没有将其研究和理解透彻。 这是因为列奥纳多也没有作任何解释。 《大西洋古抄本一页》中展示的这台机器是坦克的“进化”版本。 你可以在所有博物馆和书籍中找到著名的列奥纳多坦克。 列奥纳多坦克并不是列奥纳多最初的想法，他从瓦尔图里奥那里复制了这份坦克的设计，然后把这张精美的设计图纸卖给了米兰公爵。 然后，在复制和研究了中世纪的这个项目之后，他发现这个项目根本无法实现，所以他对这个项目进行了研究，并更改了它的机制，将其改造得更具有效率。 问题在于机器使用的发动机不容易理解。彻底理解一个项目的唯一方法就是将其复制并改进优化。就像列奥纳多模仿和研究其他技术一样，我也是这样做的。 我进行研究，然后将其复制到更大的图纸中。 复制一台机器和一个机制时，首先必须理解这个机器和机制，而这需要时间，不是一项快速就能完成的工作。 如今，在互联网上存在着快速学习和快速做事这样“虚假又糟糕”的神话，这是不正确的。 我制作的关于我复制和改进达芬奇设计的视频很长，我想传达的意思是你需要时间去学习和设计。 你花在学习和设计上的时间越多，学到的就越多，你也就变得越好。 列奥纳多就是这样最终成为了闻名于世的列奥纳多达芬奇。

什么是Esovalva？
　　Esovalva是我使用数字工具“绘制”的艺术生物之一。 但是，我并没有使用“颜料”，而是用DNA（一种数字DNA）来创建这种“动物”。 这样我就可以“绘制”数字实时表单，从而可以让它“实时”存在于计算机中。
　　Esovalva是一个非常具有发展前景的项目。 生物与创意的区别在哪里？很多时候，即使只是一缕意识或是比较完美的想法，创意都是没有踪迹的，就像从未诞生的原型那样漂浮在脑海中，只有被意志驱使塑造出来，才能成为我们通常所说的灵感。Esovalva不只是灵感的实现，它在进化过程中会有自主意识。 Esovalva会经历类似于哺乳动物胚胎的有丝分裂，然后诞生。 最开始是幼虫的模样，然后模样变得介于昆虫和鱼之间。 从现在起，不仅可以在虚幻的模拟世界看到它，你还能在现实中看拿到它。 通过使用适当的眼镜，可以对Esovalva进行三维观察，可以根据生物学和自然研究的规则复制并将其放在基座上，以便方便地进行观察、研究、分类和分解。

　您如何看待人工智能在当前和未来生活中的作用？　　
M：如今，人工智能产品占据了市场份额的90％，几乎所有的公司和媒体都在谈论人工智能，但他们只把它当作一种时尚。 如今，要想卖出产品就“必须”让产品包含人工智能。 虽然机器学习和先进的编程现在可以使用功能强大的技术让产品看起来像“智能”，但是，真正的人工智能还只是在发展中，还是一项非常艰巨的工作。 科学真理要复杂得多，一切都可以根据我们想赋予世界的“智能”的含义而改变。 什么是“智能”？ 我们如何“衡量”它？ 现在，即使是最简单的动物也比最先进的计算机“智能”得多。 所幸的是，我们正处于一个非常好的时代，如今的技术已经足够强大，可以首次进行我们称之为“人工智能”的实验。 人工智能可以用于各种作品和工具。

　　人工智能可以应用于科学技术，用于对机器和物体进行改进，这是未来的必然趋势。 但我们必须谨慎使用。 举例来说，我可以说我们即将生产出具有人工智能的洗衣机，它肯定很受欢迎，很多人都会买。 但要小心了，我们花了很多钱买的所谓的人工智能洗衣机可能会诱使我们购买更多品牌洗衣粉。 人工智能会利用我们的!
　　避免这种情况的唯一方法是变得比人工智能更“智能”、更聪明，以人类为中心，而不是以机器为中心。
　　我决定将人工智能应用到艺术中，并以这种方式创建Neoart3。我以人工DNA的形式创建动物和建筑，让它们可以在我的电脑中进化。我认为，人工智能也可以用于艺术，用于新文艺复兴时期的艺术。

您创造的这些“系统生物”真的是在自己生长吗？ 它们会生病甚至死亡吗？
M：我的数字生物确实在成长和进化，但也只是在我的掌控和设想之内。要决定这些生物的去向和成长方式，我必须对它们进行编程。其实，所有的人工智能系统最终都是由人类编写的程序所掌控的。系统生物是活的吗？它们真的能生长吗？会死吗？为了能够回答这个问题，我们必须先做一些非常困难的事情。我们必须给“生命”下一个定义，给“成长和死亡”赋予含义。

事实上，你可以对这个问题给出不同的答案。人类从未停止战斗，因为在我们的星球上，不同的人对“生存、成长和死亡”有不同的理解。另外，从分子的角度来看，没有真的死亡，因为即便死了，动物的尸体依然被大自然用于植物生长和哺育其他动物……因此很难定义“生命”，真正的“生命”。那么，人造生命呢？这算是生命吗？当然，人造生命不像人类和动物的生命，我们不能将现实世界中的一些原则运用到数字世界中。让我们想象一下，未来有一台功能非常强大的电脑，可以像电影中那样“生”出一个人工智能生物。如果这个生物真的很智能，那对它而言就没有死或生的说法，因为关掉电脑，它也不会因此遭受痛苦或死亡，而一旦打开电脑，它就又重新开始存活。人工智能生物和数字生物对时间没有感觉，它们永远“存活”，永远不会真正死亡。这就是为什么我把艺术和人工智能结合在一起，因为它非常迷人，我知道即便我死了，我创建的生物也不会死。Neoart3会一直活着。

马里奥·塔代伊

　

马里奥·塔代伊

　　马里奥 · 塔代伊博士 ( 出生于 1972 年 ) 是意大利学者，博物馆、多媒体和娱乐教育方面的专家 , 是全球著名的达 · 芬奇长期研究学者之一 ，工程、古籍和古代机器专家，数字媒体表演者和多媒体专家。曾出版多本与达·芬奇科学与艺术相关书籍 , 并被翻译成多种语言。